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    Hi All,

    I am a newbie to this forum and hopefully wanting some advice about our beardie, Sandy. He is 3.5 years old and has a rather healthy life until now, although I must mention when we first got him home he got a respiratory infection, which was treated by vets. Anyway - he is a healthy weight, fairly active young man, eats well (not so much his greens, but he does eat them) and gets completely spoilt by my daughter with Silk Worms as well as the normal crickets, etc. Just before Christmas after waking up from a couple of weeks sleep, we noticed some head tilting, curvature of spine and when he tried to walk he fell over onto his side. We also found a small lump on to of his L eye (he tilted to the R). Took him to the specialist vet...... they did bloods - his white blood cell count was up but other than that healthy in all other aspects. They kept him there for a couple of days, did a test for the adenovirus and sent him home saying it could be a viral infection, a stroke or the dreaded adenovirus. I am injecting him every 3 days with AB's and syringe feeding him with 'Grub Pie', he is eating small amounts by himself but being rather lethargic and still head tilting and although not falling over, not walking properly. We are still awaiting the results of the test. Any help, suggestions, experience with this? My daughter of 11 will be devastated if we need to euthanize him. The vet said we have done nothing wrong and they are baffled. thank you for your time.

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    To be honest I'd never heard of it in reptiles before, I thought it was a human problem. here is a link I found
    https://www.petmd.com/reptile/condit...p_Adenoviruses
    Let us know how he goes as well as the vet report, We all know about RI but this could be something we need to know about too.
    Our thoughts are with you and hopefully your dragon recovers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonlover1 View Post
    To be honest I'd never heard of it in reptiles before, I thought it was a human problem. here is a link I found
    https://www.petmd.com/reptile/condit...p_Adenoviruses
    Let us know how he goes as well as the vet report, We all know about RI but this could be something we need to know about too.
    Our thoughts are with you and hopefully your dragon recovers.
    It's more common than you think. I would like to offer a method that I have used in the past to see if he cones good. Leave all lights and heating off for a few days, remove any water bowls if you have any. Basically, just let him rest with no food or water just for a few days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asw Reptiles View Post
    It's more common than you think. I would like to offer a method that I have used in the past to see if he cones good. Leave all lights and heating off for a few days, remove any water bowls if you have any. Basically, just let him rest with no food or water just for a few days
    Hi and thank you for your replies. I have not received the results back from the vet as yet, but will definitely pass on to the forum. He has had injection #3 now and I think he is showing slight signs of improvement - he has eaten a little himself and although still rather lethargic, when he does walk he is not falling over. He has not been to the toilet in a while though.

    I am happy to try anything and will try the no heat, light and water but can I ask why you suggest that? It is going against everything the vet has told me to do - keep him hydrated, warm, etc. Would 72 hours be enough time as I need to give him an injection every 3rd day? The next injection is tomorrow so may turn off everything after that. Will keep you posted.

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    As Andrew said, it is more common that you think. Although well known in humans, strains that affect birds and reptiles do exist. There is a facebook group that used to be run by some good reptile vets in relation to reptile viruses and illnesses. Here is a link to info on andenovirus

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/4301...epa=SEARCH_BOX

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    I believe the idea that you should take away heat, lights, food etc when reptiles are sick is because they will seek out such environments in the wild to lower their metabolism while they heal - I think more current views by reptile vets is against this though, but I haven't done much research on the topic. Personally I'd keep to your vets advice, but maybe discuss this with them if you want to try it.

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    Similar to when we are sick, we don't sit in the sun and eat burgers. We crawl into bed and sleep as much as possible.
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    Hi, got the results back and Sandy tested positive to Adenovirus. Sadly he had not improved at all since starting this post 2 weeks ago; no change with the AB injections, not eating by himself and still head tilting and falling over onto his back when he tried to move. He was miserable so we made the decision to euthanize him. We will miss him greatly, but his quality of life was not at all good and we were doing him a disservice by keeping him around being miserable. What a lovely boy to have in our lives for such a short time. A very sad time in our household. Thank you to all.
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    Hi, sorry I should have mentioned that the vet thought it best for him to be euthanized as he would never recover from the Adenovirus and only deteriorate, they did not know timeframes. I could not let my 11 yo girl (who bought him and cared for him) to see that happen. He was bad enough at this stage of the illness. He deteriorated very quickly (in about a month) but the vet said that he would have had the virus since birth. He had never been in contact with another beardie or reptile and he was nearly 4 years old, from my understanding this normally occurs in juveniles. I guess you never know.

    Our family is devastated. Maybe one day in the future my daughter may want another reptile but we are not trusting the vivarium and completely destroying it and everything in it. RIP Sandy.

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    Sorry to hear the sad news but you did the right thing by Sandy. No quality of life is no life at all. Did you put him up on our memorial wall ?
    Hopefully after grieving you might get another dragon
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